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The Unpopular Woman Love Post


It's pretty natural that some female characters do worse in fandom than others, right? And sometimes it's difficult, if not downright impossible, to find a place where you can fan these characters in peace, or fellow fans to fan them with. Not to mention trying to find fanworks about them. Experience says: It hard.

So, stealing the idea shamelessly from [livejournal.com profile] doyle_sb4's Women of Doctor Who celebration post, here is a love post for the unpopular female characters. Like in [livejournal.com profile] doyle_sb4's post, you start a thread with the character's name and their respective fandom in the subject line, after which people are free to share fic and vid recs, picspams, links to essays, defenses or simply thoughts of love about the character in question. Because unpopularity is a subjective thing most of the time, the character doesn't have to be somebody you know to be the fandom underdog for sure, but if the character also has a large number of fans it would be good to give some reasons about why they're hated and why it's wrong. Links to the character threads will be collected in this post.

Being a post for unpopular characters, this is a bashing free post. If you have any negative opinions about the characters discussed or the fandom rivals of the character of your choice, please keep them to yourself.

And now, knock yourselves out!

ETA: The character and the fandom should both be named in the subject line, I forgot to mention the fandom initially. Sorry about the inconvenience!

ETA 2: If you want to share you thoughts about a character who has a thread, please reply to the thread in question. General comments and threads for new characters go to the main post.

Threads:

Diana Fowley, X-Files (Vid rec, Fic Recs, Fic recs)
Jennifer Hailey, Stargate: SG1
Sakura, Naruto (Fic recs, Author rec)
Dawn Summers, Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Anastasia Dualla, Battlestar Galactica (Comic rec, Reasons why Dee is awesome)
Lana Lang, Smallville (Vid recs)
Maya Herrera, Heroes (Vid rec)
Relena Peacecraft, Gundam Wing (Fic recs)
Cally Henderson-Tyrol, Battlestar Galactica
Gwen Cooper, Torchwood
Jennifer Keller, Stargate: Atlantis (Community link, Fic recs, Fic recs)
Niki Sanders
Freya/Anise, Stargate: SG1 (Fic rec)
Maria Hill, Marvel Comics
Thirteen/Dr. Remy Hadley, House MD (Picspam links)
Bela Talbot, Supernatural (Fic rec, Fic)
Shiori Takatsuki, Revolutionary Girl Utena
Tifa Lockhart, Final Fantasy VII
Max Guevara, Dark Angel (Vid rec, Fic rec)
Elizabeth Swann, Pirates of the Caribbean (Author rec)
Cynthia Velasquez, Silent Hill 4
Allison Cameron, House MD (Meme rec)
Liz Sherman, Hellboy
Dr. Camille "Cam" Saroyan, Bones
Ruby, Supernatural
Chloe Sullivan, Smallville
Sakaki Ouka, Weiss Kreuz
Jo Harvelle, Supernatural
Inara Serra, Firefly (Fic Rec)
Lt. Colonel Hollis Mann, NCIS
Director Jenny Shepard, NCIS
Lilly Kane, Veronica Mars
Kate Austen, Lost
Buffy Summers, Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Teyla Emmagan, Stargate Atlantis (Link, vid rec)
Alex Drake, Ashes to Ashes
Anya Jenkins, Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Fic recs)
Koriand'r, DC Comics
Sam Carter, Stargate SG-1/Atlantis
Ana Lucia, Lost
Padme Amidala, Star Wars
Arwen, The Lord of the Rings
Martha Jones, Doctor Who/Torchwood
Kennedy, Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Lois Lane, Smallville
Ginny Weasley, Harry Potter
Shmi Skywalker, Star Wars
Mai, Avatar: The Last Airbender (Fic links, Fic links & recs)
Keiko Yukimura, Yu Yu Hakusho
Orihime Inoue, Bleach
Yakumo Tatsuro, Shinzo
Sakuno Ryuzaki, The prince Of Tennis
Tenten, Naruto
Anzu Mazaki, Yu-Gi-Oh!
Temari, Naruto
Himawari, xxxHOLiC
Karen Kouzuki/Kallen Stadtfeld, Code Geass
Yuuki Miaka, Fushigi Yuugi
Meg Griffin, Family Guy
Elliot Reid, Scrubs
Princess Zelda, Legend of Zelda series/Brawl
Mizuki Kaho, Card Captor Sakura
Colette Brunel, Tales of Symphonia
Kaoru Kamiya AND Tomoe Yukishiro, Rurouni Kenshin
Ninian, Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken
Katara, Avatar: The Last Airbender (Vid rec)
Naomi Hunter, Metal Gear Solid
Scheris Adjani, Scryed
Silk Spectre II/Laurie Juspeczyk, Watchmen
Jun the Swan, Science Ninja Team Gatchaman
Hinata Hyuuga, Naruto
Momo Hinamori, Bleach
Miyako Inoue, Digimon 02
Misa Amane, Death Note
Juri Katou, Digimon Tamers
Asuka Tenjoin, Yu-Gi-Oh GX

Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-07 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ranalore.livejournal.com
Max is smart, brave, loyal, and disinclined to take anyone's shit. She manages to establish a life for herself after horrific trauma, and doesn't allow anyone to dictate to her how she lives it. The show had some serious quality issues, which tend to get blamed on Max and the actress who played her, but I adore her.

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-07 10:01 pm (UTC)
ext_13427: (glee!)
From: [identity profile] shiegra.livejournal.com
I loved Max. How she was strong and independent and managed to be fierce and vulnerable at once, how she loved her family and how madly she'd fight to protect the people she cared about. How she was gorgeous and sassy and funny and comfortable in her own body (in S1 anyway).

And then, of course, there's the contingent of idiot who work themselves into a frothing rage over the fact that she didn't worship Alec because of course, since he's pretty he must be an angel and how dare she touch him.

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-11 03:54 pm (UTC)
ciaan: (ride an Impala)
From: [personal profile] ciaan
But Max beating Alec up is hilarious! He's such a klutz and a wimp for a supersoldier. <3 both.

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-11 04:33 pm (UTC)
ext_13427: (Default)
From: [identity profile] shiegra.livejournal.com
Not to mention the fact that he totally deserved what he got. It made me laugh everytime she had to smack him upside the head.

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-07 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kisbite.livejournal.com
I just finished watching Dark Angel for the first time this week and I am so in love with Max. I felt like she lost a lot of her spirit in S2 and I'm sad I never got to see her recapture that fire from S1. She was such a force, I love how bright she was.

I was surprised by the vitriol I saw directed towards her when I went looking for the fandom (you'd think I'd learn), so if anyone has any recs (fic, vids, art, meta, picspams, anything!) I would be much obliged. I don't want to have to deal with the haters to get to the good stuff.

In return here is a vid I love that anyone even remotely into vids has probably already seen: Big City Life (http://www.alter-idem.com/index.php?set=videos&category=Dark+Angel). Not exclusively Max but she is a focus.

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-10 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ticketsonmyself.livejournal.com
Through All These Things Twice (http://lowercasek.mediawood.net/freewheeling.htm) was written for The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan ficathon; it's brief, fresh, and unsaccharine, with snappy dialogue and appealingly just-short-of-jaded character voices. The story features Max as narrator, plus Original Cindy and Alec. Tagline: Spring has sprung.

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-11 03:46 pm (UTC)
ciaan: (the mountains rose up to the sky)
From: [personal profile] ciaan
That vid is amazing. It makes me cry EVERY TIME I watch it, god yeah.

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-07 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mkitten13.livejournal.com
Quality issues? Blame on Max?

Color me confused. I thought Dark Angel was a terrific show and Max was one hell of a character. Original Cindy was my absolute fave, but Max came a very close second. I am very confused that she would end up on a list over unpopular female characters in shows...

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-08 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com
Jessica Alba's habit of being in really, really terrible movies probably was a factor in this, as many people have decided she can't act. I fucking love Max and Cindy, myself.

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-08 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com
I love so very, very much the moment when Max decided her surname should be "Guevara."

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-08 01:23 am (UTC)
ext_1310: (sow a little tenderness)
From: [identity profile] musesfool.livejournal.com
Oh, Max. She's like an adorably awkward puppy you can't help but want to cuddle, even when she tries to bite your hand off. She was smart and brave and loyal and she got the short end of the stick writing-wise on a show where the writing was generally awful and the PTB sucked all the fun out of her in season 2, but when they let her be with Cindy or Joshua or Alec, she shone through.

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-08 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] some-stars.livejournal.com
I LOVE MAX. oh my god, how I love her. I kind of almost love her more in season 2 when we get to see more of her flaws, because they're such natural intuitive extensions of her good points and what she's been through. I love how she relates differently to every character but always stays the same at her core, I love her fierceness and incredible emotional damage, I love watching Jessica Alba slowly but surely learn to act, I just. MAX. Max is the HEART of the SHOW and she is more than up to it.

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-02-11 03:52 pm (UTC)
ciaan: (troubles seem so far away)
From: [personal profile] ciaan
Maybe it's good I watched the show all by myself, because wtf? It's so much about Max, I don't understand how anyone could like it if they don't like her. (Well, okay, there are probably people who say the same about other main characters I dislike in other shows, but still.)

Max was so cynical yet caring, so messed-up yet brave and determined, so smart and brassy, so much awesome.

In conclusion: Like the t-shirt says, girls kick ass.

Re: Max Guevara, Dark Angel

Date: 2009-12-21 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wingslapped.livejournal.com
She's the reason I watched the show.

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